Doctor Strange 2 Writer Compares the Illuminati and the Avengers

Writer Michael Waldron of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness compares Captain America’s Avengers to Captain Carter’s Illuminati.

WARNING: major spoilers for Doctor Strange 2!

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Writer Michael Waldron explains the main difference between the film’s Illuminati and the Avengers. The first three phases of the Marvel Cinematic Universe focused on the formation of the Avengers. Minus a few wrong decisions – made by Tony Stark ala Avengers: Age of Ultron and Captain America: Civil War – the superhero team has exuded righteousness since its inception. Following Avengers: Endgamethe MCU’s Phase 4 (arguably the post-Avengers era) explored alternate versions of Earth’s Mightiest Heroes.


Multiverse of Madness sees Doctor Strange visit more than a few alternate universes as the focus shifts from the Avengers of Earth-616 to the Illuminati. Halfway through the film, Strange and America Chavez land on Earth-838, a utopian fake universe/police state. There, Strange is arrested and escorted by Ultron sentries past the Illuminati of Earth-838: a secret society of superheroes consisting of Karl Mordo (Chiwetel Ejiofor), Captain Carter (Hayley Atwell), Maria Rambeau/Captain Marvel ( Lashana Lynch), Black Bolt ( Anson Mount), Professor Charles Xavier (Patrick Stewart) and Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic (John Krasinski). Now that all those cameos have been seen or spoiled, the Loki creator and Multiverse of Madness scribe compared them to Captain America and company.

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In a recent interview with ReverseWaldron explained how the Avengers differ from Multiverse of Madness“Illuminati. While acknowledging that the ethical line the Avengers will not cross, he explained that the goal of the Illuminati is to “make the tough decisionsthat’s why they operate in the shadows. Read the full quote below:

“The Avengers have a line they wouldn’t cross. The Illuminati are there to do the things the Avengers can’t. To make the tough decisions. That’s why they operate in the shadows and hope never to have to meet. They are ready to play in the gray.

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Although Professor X eventually concluded that “j‘Cause someone stumbles and loses their way, doesn’t mean they’re lost forever,“The group’s distrust of 616’s Strange because of 838 Strange – whom they killed – and the flippant attitude towards Scarlet Witch exemplify an elitist and arrogant attitude in line with their comic book counterparts. Needless to say that the Avengers are the humblest group. Of course, these new heroes are quickly and brutally eliminated by Darkhold-possessed Wanda Maximoff, who sends quite a message regarding the Scarlet Witch’s true power. Although the Illuminati do not survive Multiverse of Madnessthe ethos and team members will likely play a part in the future of the MCU.

As Marvel Studios continues to explore its multiverse and become more mature, MCU films are sure to paint in shades of gray. Over the past decade, the Avengers have done everything they can to save as many lives as possible. As Steve Rogers/Captain America stated in Avengers: Infinity Warthey don’t trade lives“No matter the price. Obviously, Peggy and the Illuminati of Earth 838 are ready to trade lives and Steve isn’t here to have a problem with that anymore. It is possible that the Illuminati only existed in this universe. Conversely, they may already be there or about to form in 616. While audiences won’t see the Illuminati assembled again, characters like Captain Carter, Mr. Fantastic, Professor X, and Captain Marvel will likely return from a one way or another. , shape or form. Until then, fans can go watch Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness in theaters for the second, third or fourth time and theorizing about that empty chair and the absence of a superior iron man.

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